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The whole point of the Ethical Oil argument is not that oil doesn’t hurt the enovrinment, that you trade off enovrinmentalism versus human rights, it’s that the point that the US should buy their oil from a more virtuous country than say Saudi Arabia, since oil would have to purchased for much of the foreseeable future. Unless you like taxes going to such lovely examples of both enovrinmental & social concerns. Of course it won’t matter to the extreme enovrinmentalists, who won’t be happy until all oil production is shutdown, and the magic of wishful thinking replaces the energy oil now provides which it just won’t. I wish it would, then everybody would be happy, but it won’t. As for the CBC interview with the Ethical Oil chick, where Tremonte (spelling?) constructed an attack on Kathryn Marshall it was such an unbalanced interview. But nobody expects to find balance at the public broadcaster anymore anyways, merely views ranging from the centre to the far left. However, Marshall should have spoken more slowly like the other guests, so that Tremonte would not have kept cutting her off, unlike the other two guests.As for MartinM, I can only tell what I observed. At the beginning of round 3 of enovrinmental alarmism a few years back, Most enviromentalists called it global warming. I stand by that it later began to be called climate change popularily. This from the same folks who couldn’t tell you the weather forecast 1 month from now just trust their mathematical models. And again, to combat our measly less than 1% of GHG??? This is why you folks want to kill the sands?